Steve: Oh hell yeah these dudes are the coolest. The Tremere clan. They're like the wizards of Vampire.
Zack: What about the mages?
Steve: Mage is a separate game based on hermetic magic.
Zack: So what kind of magic do these guys use?
Steve: Thaumaturgy blood magic.
Zack: So they're blood mages?
Steve: Those would be Verbena.
Zack: That's a vampire clan?
Steve: That's a Tradition of mages.
Zack: In vampire?Steve: In Mage.
Zack: Steve fucking kill me right now.
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